Pardon Me?

on Saturday, July 7, 2007

In light of all the vitriol spewing from the liberal blog-dom concerning the Scooter Libby commutation (it was not a pardon by the way, it was only a commutation – some Democrats fail to recognize that fact), I felt it would be appropriate to call out their hypocrisy by addressing Bill Clinton’s Pardongate.

Al Gore called Libby's pardon "very disappointing" and said, "I thought it was improper. He was charged with knowledge that could incriminate his bosses in the White House, which included the vice president and the president." Well, maybe you should just keep your mouth shut on "very disappointing" matters of the law, Mr. Gore, seeing as your former boss was impeached for similar White House conduct and your own son was just arrested on suspicion of possession of marijuana and drugs and was allegedly caught driving 100mph when they made this arrest. Here's a free tip, Al: You don't sound very credible while trying to call out the disorder of the current administration, when your own family is in as much disarray as your former administration was. Go back to your hot-air-blowing concert tour.

As for Hillary, well she's been the laughingstock throughout this whole thing. In fact, she's been the biggest hypocrite of all in this circumstance! She has joined numerous Democrats in ripping Bush for his decision and has said that "this particular action by the president is one more piece of evidence in their ongoing disregard for the rule of law that they think they don't have to answer to."


Mrs. Clinton, was not Libby’s offense very similar to Bill’s own criminal conviction? "Disregard for the law," you say?... Let's not forget that your husband appeared on live television and lied to the American public under oath... Disregard for the law?... What a crock! In fact, didn't your husband pardon at least 140 criminals during his tenure as president? I guess it was no big deal though, huh... After all, those 140 criminals only included drug dealers, tax evaders, money launderers, perjurers, and embezzlers – crimes not near as serious as Libby possibly mentioning some agent's name, right? Unbelievable.

In fact, for fun, let’s review a few of those your husband pardoned. The following is not necessarily in chronological order:

1) Marc Rich – This is probably the most popular of all of Clinton’s pardons. Marc Rich was a supporter of the Democratic Party and worked as an international commodities trader. In the mid-80s, after being chased by authorities, he fled the United States to live in Switzerland while being prosecuted on charges of tax evasion and making illegal oil deals with Iran during the hostage crisis.

Side note:
**Some liberals will argue that a portion of his headquarters was in Switzerland and he was simply returning there for business needs. What a pathetic argument - if that were the case, why did he refuse to return to the U.S. following the indictment? After all, wasn't he on the FBI's most wanted list for several years during his 'vacation' in Switzerland? Don't waste my time trying to say he wasn't running.**

Another side note:
**Many liberals dodge answering the above question by heading off on some tangent that Scooter Libby was actually Rich's lawyer (who, in fact, publicly criticized Rich for his Iran dealings, even while serving as his lawyer) and that Rudy Guiliani pursued RICO charges against Rich during all of this... So??? Did Libby run to Switzerland to avoid paying millions in taxes? Did Guiliani make the FBI's most wanted list and make illegal oil deals with Iran? No matter how you look at it, RICH was the one who broke the law - don't try to blame it on Libby or Rudy. This liberal 'argument' showcases a typical example of the liberal logical fallacy of "distraction from the actual question."**

Continuing on...
Based on all this about Marc Rich, why would Clinton pardon such a man who participated in illegal dealings and who even went on the lam to avoid paying hundreds of millions in past-due taxes and fines (which he was ultimately forced by the IRS to pay)? Well it just so happens that the not-so-conservative editor in chief of the Washington Post reported that Rich's wife, Denise Richards, raised $1 million dollars for the Democratic Party, contributed $10,000 to the Clinton’s legal defense fund, and even gave Hillary $7,300 worth of tables, chairs, pots, pans, and maybe even a mop for the new house. Well now, it turns out you can BUY your way out of tax fraud if you give the president a few bucks and his wife some new pots. Also, while in Switzerland, Marc Rich ditched his wife Denise (even though she helped bail him out of this mess) to marry a hot new blond model. Doesn’t karma suck?

Yet another random side note on Hillary's pots and pans:
**Hillary once admitted that she doesn’t cook and even offered her distaste for stay-at-home moms when she insulted them by saying, "I've done the best I can to lead my life ... You know, I suppose I could have stayed home and baked cookies and had teas, but what I decided to do was fulfill my profession". Ouch.**

2) FALN – In late 1999, President Clinton commuted the sentences of 16 members of FALN, which was a violent Puerto Rican nationalist group that set off 120 bombs in the United States (how nice of them). They were also convicted for conspiracies to commit robbery, bomb-making, and sedition, as well as for firearms and explosives violations. They were all sentenced to terms up to 105 years (with the lowest being 35 years) for various counts and charges (oddly, none of the 16 were convicted of bombings for any crime which injured another person). Congress, however, recognizes that the FALN is responsible for "6 deaths and the permanent maiming of dozens of others, including law enforcement officials." Clinton ultimately offered these individuals clemency which was bitterly opposed by the U.S. Attorney's Office, the FBI, and the Federal Bureau of Prisons, and criticized by many including former victims of FALN terrorist activities, the Fraternal Order of Police, and members of Congress. In fact, Congress condemned Clinton's actions with a vote of 95-2 in the Senate and 311-41 in the House. Too bad Clinton wasn't in the oval office to pardon Bin Laden for bombing New York, the same crime he let the FALN off the hook for.

3) Almon Glenn Braswell – This man was pardoned of his mail fraud and perjury convictions, DURING a federal investigation was which was currently underway regarding his additional money laundering and tax evasion charges. It is reported that Braswell paid approximately $200,000 to Hillary Clinton's brother, Hugh Rodham, to represent their respective cases for clemency. It is also reported that Hugh Rodham returned the payments after he got caught. When questioned about his money dealings, Braswell would only invoke the 5th amendment.

4) Edgar and Vonna Jo Gregory – These two lovely individuals were convicted and served hard time for a bank fraud conviction in 1982. Hillary's other brother, Tony Rodham (not the same brother listed above), was an acquaintance of the Gregorys, and had lobbied Clinton on their behalf. In October of 2006, the U.S. Justice Department was asked to file an investigation, alleging that Rodham had received $107,000 from the Gregorys for the pardons, in the form of loans that were never repaid, as part of a quid pro quo scheme. Scandalous...

5) William Arthur Borders Jr. – This man was pardoned for "conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery" He later went to jail for refusing to testify in the impeachment proceedings, that is, until Clinton pardoned him.

One final interesting side note:
**Let’s look more closely at this Alcee Hastings character. Mr. Hastings is an impeached and removed federal judge and is currently a member of the House of Representatives (Florida). A Democrat, Hastings was first a lawyer, then a judge of both the circuit court of Broward County, Florida, and as a judge for the Southern District of Florida...until he was impeached and removed from office for corruption and perjury. (He is only the 6th federal judge in history to be removed from office by the Senate.) What happened?... Well, in 1981, Hastings was charged with accepting a $150,000 bribe in exchange for a lenient sentence and a return of seized assets for 21 counts of racketeering by Frank and Thomas Romano, and of perjury in his testimony about the case. What an honest guy! In 1988, Hastings was officially impeached by a vote of 413-3. Some of those to vote for the impeachment included Nancy Pelosi, John Conyers, Charles Rangel, and Steny Hoyer (random fact for all you left wingers). Now here’s the interesting part. Part of the Democrat’s campaign to win back the house and senate was to defeat the so-called Republican "culture of corruption." But last year, Nancy Pelosi announced that the head of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence might be no other than...Alcee Hastings, the very man she voted to impeach for corruptness several years earlier! See how the Democrats are all talk? They campaign how they will eliminate the Republican "culture of corruption" and then they offer a corrupt, impeached judge to be the head of a committee. Disgraceful**

So to sum up, let’s take a look at the scoreboard:

Controversial pardons and commutations:

G. W. Bush: 1 - - - - - Clinton: Higher than most liberals can count


Oldenburg said...

However, none of Clinton's pardons were for people involved in any scandals of his White House, but were scandals in themselves.

GW Bush, like his father, has "pardoned" (he will pardon Libby later on) person who would or could otherwise sing to prosecutors about a larger crime. That is called obstruction of justice, one of the impeachment charges against Clinton.

Mike said...

Here, folks, we see a classic argument from a degenerate.

You say "none of Clinton's pardons were for people involved in any scandals of his White House"...

Sure, they were just drug dealers (the president's brother being one of them), tax evaders, embezzlers, etc. Why would you justify the pardoning of such individuals?

And since you brought up "White House scandals" let's not forget some new words the Clinton administration coined:
Lewinsky-gate, Perjury-gate, Billary's Impeachment-gate, and let's not forget Whitewater.

(And please don't make me bring up the 73 House and Senate witnesses who have pled the 5th Amendment and 17 witnesses who have fled the country to avoid testifying about the Clinton's Democratic campaign fundraising)

No scandals in Clinton's White House, huh?...

Oldenburg said...

Did I say that there were no Clinton scandals? NO
Did any of your references allude to pardons based on Lewinsky, etc.? NO

The fact that Roger Clinton was addicted to drugs (I don't know that he was a drug dealer) is really besides the point and just slander. Bill Clinton didn't pardon his brother.

Do I agree with Clinton's pardons? NO

But they are not the moral equivalence of the de facto pardon of Scoter Libby.

You can slime the Clintons or me all you want, but you never addressed my actual point.

A classic argument from a degenerate. [Welcome to the blogosphere by the way, I found you via SLCSpin]

Mike said...

I see.

Like you, I never said I agreed with the decision to commute anybody. Current facts seem to confirm that Libby broke the law. But the purpose of this somewhat facetious article is to call attention to the hypocrisy steaming from the left.

Also, I am aware of my link at and I have also been a member of the 'blogosphere' for some time now

Marshall said...

Clinton Derangement Syndrome...alive and well.

Mike said...

As if you lefties are any less obsessed with Bush...